For the purposes of this Convention, torture means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.
Simply put, they are debating the definition of what defines "severe pain or suffering" in the above text. So in the spirit of Jonathan Swift, I would like to make the following "modest proposal":
Let these commenters have some of the various forms of torture being alleged against those involved with Abu Ghraib and the recently released documents from the US Army's CID be practiced against them. Allow them to become guinea pigs in the
torture interrogation methods. Maybe they can volunteer for water boarding. As they don't seem to believe that being forced to remain in contorted positions, perhaps they would like to try the pau de arara (parrot's perch):
Getting spanked on the feet sound easy? Let them try the falanga punishment.
Why limit this to physical torture? Tell them the sound of that person screaming in the next room is their son or daughter, or spouse or parents or sibling. Blast them with heavy metal music for 18 hours at a time. Keep them awake for days at a time.
Or they should simply ask themselves if they are comfortable with this being done in their name and if they wouldlike citizens of their country being treated this way if arrested. If the answer to the former is yes, then they have ceded any moral authority they may have had. If the answer to the latter is no, then they should be branded for what they are: hypocrites.
I think that the forehead would be an appropriate spot for such branding.